In the article announcing this first information, Cruciani et al. It is present in Egyptian men and Somali men at (relatively for this haplogroup) “higher” levels. My sibling, most of them have light skin and look berebers. These conclusions are supported by recent mtDNA analysis (Quintana-Murci et al. Here let me give you an example Most of us vary in lighter skin tones, we have delicate facial features and softer curly hair. Your blog is infinitely more interesting and objective than anything I have seen (outside of peer journals, etc). you can answer this question: why the Semitic languages are classified in the last level of Afro-Asian languages! Arabid In Southern Egypt or North Sudan (Nubian Desert) a man gave rose to M78 or E3b1a. Mathilda Scientists recently decided to name the whole group “Somalid”. Have you ever looked up Berber people. Mathilda, I am a Somali who is light skinned and my family probably have quite a bit of Arab ancestry. Can you tell me the other genes In a somali in terms of percentage. Saying 18 million Somalis are 40% Eurasian is extremely misleading. Neither are enough to alter the physical appearance of the people. But looking at it and seeing that Portugese/Spanish shit in the breakdown makes me crinch. Y chr especially are prone to founder effects and are not great indicators of the level of inherited ancestry in mixed groups. And our skin varies in lighter skin tones. Blench makes a lot more sense. It’s why I’m not really into the wall paintings that much, they are pretty stylised. but I’m not sure on that latter one). I’ve got some news for you, even West Africans have some Eurasian ancestry in them (Y DNA R1b + K, and mt DNA U) from a very old back migration into Africa. They both look about the same as they did from the Neolithic on. What do my experiences with individual Africans have to do with knowing U.S history and knowing black American history? In fact, among Somali populations, the nomad is the most homogenous. M35 also expalains why some groups in Southern Africa and southern Eastern Africa who do have M293 (only seen in sub-Sahara) but dont have M78 speak Afro-Asiatic. The northeastern-African — that is, the Ethiopian and Somali — populations are located centrally between sub-Saharan African and non-African populations… The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity — and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis — makes simple-admixture models less likely; rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies (Tishkoff et al. Your BS would mean All East asians should have caucasoid skulls too. Because we aren’t. These people moved southwards into Ethiopia, then Somalia. Pre-sorting and lumping of samples into racial categories before beginning DNA analysis thus skewing final results. You say that Eb31/E1b1…M78 is not originally from East-Africa meaning Horn of Africa! Thread starter Insomniac; ... You Oromos have this thing where you get up on social media and pick a random Somali qabil and say they’re Oromo. We have ALWAYS looked the way we do, the amount of mixing is minimal. The older papers put m78 as East African in origin, but it’s incorrect. or just some weird people in Eastern Africa? DNA, language and the fact that in Ancient Egypt it was referred to their land of origin. ! All these people look with the west Africans many of you covet. M35 is pretty uncommon in the Arab areas, M78 and is variants do occur there. “I don’t really care what a pop. You need top read this paper. I have already gave my piece and said Southern Egyptians. Here the Puntites have none of the characteristic traits of Africans; on the contrary they exhibit some features which are peculiar to them alone, and others which are also found elsewhere. Berber history is very complex and Berber speakers are not found in Eurasia, nor is M81 – the Berber Marker – Which are the two most important things that make Berbers BERBER. Exactly, Matt needs to tend to his own backyard before trying to comment on others. You’ll really only find East Africa down as Punt in books from the 1950’s and before, later Egyptologists have found a lot of references to Punt-in- Asia in texts that were tranlated more recently.. I have always thought about what we Somalis are, my mom says we simply are ethioper “Oromo” Oetset who have moved on, but we do it? M10 – of Central Africa. M78: Somalis ~80%, East Africa~35%, Balkans~25% M1a also show a distribution from the same NE African point that M1 and M78 radiate from. The maternal DNA is about 20% M1. (2000BC~6000BC), this is not a surprise, since they are next to us. It’s all ludicrous. Although they are Yap+ as Haplgroup D is Yap+, They belong to Asian Haplogroup D, and probably Mtdna M. As a matter of fact seems to me that “Negritos” are only “Negros” with Asian DNA.? North East/East African. Because of our proximity to those people. Dictionary : Black – Pertaining or belonging to any of the various populations characterized by dark skin pigmentation, specifically the dark-skinned peoples of Africa, Oceania, and Australia. Their ancestors as in a lot of black society. Which is why some East Africans have Caucasoid skull shapes. Population affinties of the Berbers is probably the next title for it. Somalis are about half made up of these very ancient Egyptian people. Look at their DNA studies. When I was a teen age, I asked my mom if she had an Arab or any other blood, I asked because her skin is as white as the Russians and kids were mocking me callings mom to look like a doll. It just show we are human, Mathias! this is a touchy subject with some black people as I have experienced and it shouldn’t be because we are all African. STAN Fair, Stantonlikzaddy Matilda in response to your comments: As for Punt, there’s more evidence locating it somewhere in the Arabian peninsula than in Somalia. In Turks, 12 haplogroups were found including J2*(xJ2f2) (27.1%), R1b3*(xR1b3d, R1b3f) (20.3%), E3b3 and R1a1*(xR1a1b) (both 11.9%). My mother is from the same family they r cousins and she is very light and has hazel eyes. We have very defined facial features, long, soft, curly/wavy/thick hair and a diverse range of lighter skin tones. I just wanted to make a few points. “Mathide is serving us the western ethnocentrist view. Mathilda, why didn’t you publish my post? Modern day Somalis are descendents of the same father group of Berbers in Morocco, the ancient Phoenicians in Lebanon, 33% of Greeks, pretty much the old real Ancient Greeks, 45% of Albananians and Balkan Europeans, and North Africans with highest percentage in Morocco Berbers at 65% etc. Yes… In Ancient Egyptian ‘Kemet’ was the black ones, black people Do you think Matilda can teach you the essence of how it is to be somali? But I have been waiting a long time for your rebuttle to see what YOUR opinion is on this specific question. Eurasian mt DNA (U and M1) and E3b African father, m78 mixed ancestry son. Berbers, Egyptians, Somali are all E3b just how Senegal, Burkina Faso, Angola and Benin are E3a. in which scientific finds and methods are used to support or validate racist attitudes and ideolologies or political positions. 1 – They are darker and look much more like the Ancient pigments used in the paint. It’s a founder effect from the neolithic (btw, that age for m81 is way too young). I have read too many times people label E3a as West African, Bantu etc. Somali m78 is different to European v13.”, Many Arab/Israeli people are Obviously we know the American president Jefferson had it, but it was a bit on the odd side to find it in an Anglo-Saxon of that time it seems. You carry some African, Asian blood. This is what you will find. Same can be said with Tutsis who migrated even further and mixed with hutus in Rwanda it make more sense than saying Somalis are pure race that to me is to be in denial. It has Affinity with Eurasia simply because it ~IS~R1b. You can be Eurocentrist, that’s fine as everyone has their opinion but you should let others speak because there’s no point having a blog when you don’t let those who challenge you to express themselves. In Somali Ke Medaw – means black one. It seems E3b1 carriers have a portion of Eurasian ancestry from upper Egypt, so it would probably be a bit more than it seems at first. And yet, every publishing geneticist observes they have about 40% Eurasian ancestry. While you were so busy reading up on Africa you should have learned the entire story. Why we look distinct from other Africans is because Somalis typically have the E1b1b (formerly E3b) genetic haplogroup in their genes which is also found in other ethnicities in the Horn of Africa, like Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Djibouti. This seems true: One can easily assume that to rule the land he may have sent Soldiers and governors either from Persia or from other nations that he may be ruling to claim its dominancy. In this example – GENETICALLY – can M58 people separate themselves from M154 people? 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. Modern Ethiopians and Somalis also are “Separated” 24k years ago from that Specific event. Linguistic is contradicting this kind of thesis. In Somali it occurs as Ka (one the), Ki, Ku, Kee (who), Kuwa My only concern is that some black Africans, particularly many in Tanzania seem to see Somalis as non Africans. The same way (even though we do not have written history to help proof this fact), of the more than 200 afroasiatic languages which are still spoken today, only a handful (mainly arabic, hebrew, aramaic) are spoken outside the african continent. Hey guys, I am a boy aged 16 and living in Copenhagen Denmark. (2001), Semino et al. and the 15% is probably Arab, not European. Great post Latifa but i dont think mathilda understand what “Black” Means as we are using it now. That was surprising but very understandable to read about on your blog. Along the way M2 had many different mutations, some are: I think evniviroment also influence the body to adapt and after few generations it become standard for example to see tall Somalis with skinny body which was good for their daily life of livestock and moving around. Negrid Amhara:10 Then you got trading Arabs in historical times settling in Somalia too, mostly on the coast. But my granmother’s name is very short and so i do believe that her ancestors came from india. This is an accurate description of much of the people in the East African region and the style of dress and the braided hair etc. We only have about 15%. M191 – Bantu expansion In terms of Genetic lineage they have not lost anything as the population is primarily R1b. If the origin in Ethiopia was replaced by Egypt is it now replaced by Sudan? Do you have any data about the Nilitic peoples in general and the Luo in particular? In Egypt the mtDNA is mixed also M1, L3 & H. M78 is the clade closest to the somali type… the distribution maps for the two are on the page, there’s not any overlap. – the parent of the little group you’ve listed was North African, and it’s an absolute crock of crap that they are calling Southern Europeans Somalid. and is considered as “black African”? I’m not questioning DNA what I’m questioning is the theory behind the facts no one said(present research presented to us) Somali men have 46% of european genes so therefore it is b/c ……. – Pepi. hybridisation assay, Our Somali sample presents features that clearly locate it close to the African samples, but European features are also evident…. Clearly not a simple answer. You are a bit related to Egyptians and Yemeni people. I found this, It might interest you as to the location of the land of Punt. Music Industry News and Views, The Unconfessed Goddess, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:07 PM Our mtdna is quite varied but mainly haplogroup M and various other haplogroups such as pre-hv etc but no Bantu mtdna. Yes I do read Chrish Ehret- and I wince when I do it. Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti and Somali are all Brothers intermarried and mixed. Are Somalis and ethioper (Oromo) the same people? I think it is a bit hurtful the way the word negroid is used as if there is something wrong with the look. There are many Horn Africans living in Yemen, but some Yemenis actually look like horn Africans. E3b lineage was subsequently brought into southern Europe during the scotish,Irish,berbers, greecks ,albanians, Iberians,ancient egyptians ,ancient semites, aren’t of your somalid innovation! Do Australian Aborigines have “Euro-type” hair? Berbers are essentailly a mediterranean popaultion and not that closely related to black Africans. It used to be assumed (primarily on the basis of the scenes at Deir el-Bahri depicting Hatshepsut’s expedition to Punt in the mid-18th Dynasty) that the trading parties travelled by sea from the ports of Quseir or Mersa Gawasis, but it now seems likely that at least some of the Egyptian traders sailed south along the Nile and then took an overland route to Punt, perhaps making contact with the Puntites in the vicinity of Kurgus, at the fifth cataract. A ‘perceived superiority’ is not the tone I got from you. And when i was recently looking at Socotra (Which is ruled by Yemen but actually closer to Somalia) you Really really looked like horn Africans. But even the darkest somali still has medium sized lips with a small nose. That this pisses you off just too bad. The M78 mutation (y chromosome) that is present in East Africans occurred in North East Africa, not East Africa, and it occurred in a mixed Eurasian/African population. I’d be surpirsed if their R1b turned out to be a variety you’ll ever find in Europe. When Puntites and Africans are depicted on one and the same monument, care is taken to bring out the physical differences between them, as in the tomb of Amenmose at Thebes. T. The reverse is not true of Ethiopia which has seen some pretty en mass population movements into it over the past few thousand years though, and other multi gene (autosomal) studies have shown them to be about 40% Eurasian as well. All that said I am still European, so please don’t take this Somalid thing too serious its just DNA, it doesn’t change the fact that I am European! I don’t like to use that term black African at all because it then brings up this whole issue of what ‘scientists’ use to determine what groups are black or black enough to be black African which often has been historically inaccurate because some groups are sometimes classified depending upon the researcher bias. I’ve deleted a few comments now, so this may not make sense to anyone reading the comments later on. If it was within that time I just haven’t seen it and cleared it. You are rejecting truth from DNA and genetics such as the E3b1 haplogroup being originally from the Horn of Africa, from the birth place of humans according to most Scientists. Instead you just hit me with more numbers about migrations and things – which is fine but i would like to see you answer this question. The only reason Horn of Africans get 80+% SSA on 23andMe is because 23andMe uses Horn of African samples. (Somali, Oromo, Fur, Massalit, etc) But the populations that migrated were not really mixed at all, if they were, I think that we would see in Especially in the Somalis who have a clan structure and really don’t marry outside of their Clan. Im somali and im dark brown with long nose, thin lips, curly hair and some of my brothers have almost straight hair and even one of my brothers looks kinda bangladeshi or darker indian and we even nicknamed him gandhi..my dad’s mum had very straight hair and was very dark and his dad was light skinned with curly hair..and my mum’s family are all light skinned with straight hair…This shows our diversity and yet we look alike. The few east Africans I’ve discussed this with don’t seem remotely upset about it, and are pretty well aware of the Eurasian contribution to their ancestry. If you lived in Ethiopia you will witness these. (M35>M293). – Some people debate of Omotic but the people themselves are Ethiopians and not Nilotic. If you have a difference source that says other wise thanks in advanced. So deep-set is some of their insecurity that there’s not much one can do to help. There are tons of pictures i can point you to. The Eurasian haplogroup K2 was found in 10.4%, and 3.0% of the Somali Y chromosomes belonged to the major clade J. It means Somalis are probably about 1/2 Upper Egyptian, and quite closely related to North East Africans, particularly modern Southern (upper) Egyptians but closest to Ethiopians. As do I, but 15% (I doubt the avg. The thing is, Somali’s like other ethnic groups aren’t entirely related. STAN Fair. He’s said outright in his specific study of Egyptians that they are the same as the modern population. Some of them are very ancient in Africa, the M1 isn’t seen Asia and the Y chr have a seriosly ancient entry date to Africa and aren’t common in Asia any more. Read it, laugh at it, then pointed out flaws in it’s pseudo logic when someone else posted it in my comments a month ago.. What it essentially whines in deliberately confusing technospeak is that because L3a is found in Africa, M1 must come from there- and that’s all it says. U6mt-DNA is too specific to the Berbers, the highest concentration of U6 in the world it’s in Morocco 96% and the majority of countries of North Africa! The only ones who seem to use those terms instead of just being specific and say “semitic ancestry” have often been eurocentrics that enjoy degrading West Africans and claim that East Africans are not black and thus have nothing to do with them. M2 is the Brother of M215 as both of them come from p2 Thanks to all. explain then why the eskimos native to alaska have dark skin it should have evolved into white skin by now according to your theory of 20,000 years (even non africans would have dark skin?) Was britney spears the only white pop star that actually could dance? Haven’t heard about Punt being in Arabia only really East Africa. I am somalian and my YDNA is E1b1b1a1b V32 with DYS438=11 while Ethiopian DYS438 is 12. Founder effect?”. Technically all east Africans are more closely related to Eurasians than West Africans, but not so distantly to the San. there were people living there before those egyptians came.It is true that the ancient egyptians reffered somalia as the land of punt which means the land of milk and honey, and somalia was a part of the ancient egyptian kingdom, the obvious reason for egyptians to travel to somalia was for the purpose of trade, one of the major things the egyptians were found of was the stones that gave off a parfume like scent when it is burnt, many somalis use these stones in there house to make the area smell good. Means I have to delete an old entry. But it varies between families. We are wary of foreigners. V12 is common in East Africa, V32 is a micro subclade of V12. So, they are descendants of us not the other way around. All of these mutations come from M2. The same can be said for Coastal Berbers they are primarily M81. And you have the shrivelled nuts to call ME racist. Egyptian were euro asian ?! They took a route through Ethiopia, so roughly you are right. You also see the browish red in Sudan, The horn of Africa, and African populations in general. According to Cruciani et al. -Somalia only have 6 individuals sampled that were Haplogroup J. The article on Jefferson from BBC said, it was considered odd for him because this haplogroup has more of a “Middle Eastern affinity” in general. Cohen says CH riots apart of whitewash much like Black Wallstreet massacre. You never see Japanese anthroplogist going to North America and studying house wives in suburbia. They are the groups that have M215 and M35. Based on History of Migrations, Genetics and skin color. 1. btw based on the Bell Curve Obama will be much worse a president than Bush, blame his genes! East africans are genetically closer to Europeans than West africans though, for whatever reason. And its also clear from the art that Puntites weren’t black Africans.. Downstream: The donkey was used extensively in both Egypt and Nubia and I doubt that that donkeys have been in the Middle East since the 5th Dynasty when they were described as well as a Pygmy that was picked up in Yam (Below 3rd Cataract) on the way TO Punt. Why or why not? do we have india and portoggues ancestory ? she gives me rihanna bad girl vibes but taylor... SweetApples I do not get the chance to frequently communicate with my family overseas so I have learned very little about my paternal lineage thus far. Don’t let the names confuse you, the E3b1 in Europe (V13) is about 30k seperated from any sub Saharan ancestor. Pro-Trump PROTESTER (singular) Showed Herself At TWITTER'S HQ in SF, Bill Belichick Declines the Presidential Medal of Freedom, Senator Sherrod Brown reveals Lindsey Graham berated security while senators sequestered during riot, List Of Corporations Who Have Suspended Donations To Some GOP Members, NYT: An Urgent Reckoning for the Trump Brand, National Guard: 10,000 troops for Inauguration, Fmr. Somalis are about half made up of these very ancient Egyptian people. Maternally they have a lot more SSA in them maternally, around 70% SSA lines, but more like 80% if you assume some SSA ancestry to their M1 mt DNA. M35 went to Egypt, M78 was born in Egypt, M78 came back to Ethiopia and Sudan – Probably when the Sahara had a dry spell. You probably believe the San and east Africans are mixed because they aren't as black skinned as you want them to be. Funny . Mathilda, I am not really sure where K2 is from but i dont think its African. For example the Beja, the Cushitic group that lives from southern Egypt all the way through Eritrea that Somalis are also closely related to are also depicted with red coloring in Egyptian reliefs and they are also undeniably black African. Unfortunately my special area is North Africa, so I can’t be certain of migrations to account for it’s presence in Europe. It really WOULD be like banging your head against the wall with them. Oromo, Somali, Afar, Saho, Opposed to the Semitized Cushitics that have a significant minority of genetic Semites amongst them: The original people of the levant are blacks who now live in Africa, ALL THE SAME PEOPLE AND SHARE COMMON ANCESTRY, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Mathilda: Are you implying that we are more related to Eurasians? Somaliland is Referred to in medieval times as Bilad al Barbar (”Land of the Berbers”). We are the true essence of Afro-asiatic, being almost 85% Y-chromosome E1b1b (E3b1). this brings me to my next point if somalis are 80% east african i wud assume you meant that this is nilotic as they are indigenous to this region. All a dark…dark skin Afrocentric people were spread all over the planet. Yet some in my own family even, not all, really dislike being called arab. my haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b. Hello people interesting topic, well I am Somali and I’ve always had a concept from parents, family members and other Somalis ever since I can remember that we are different from certain other african countries, I always thought that we are a unique group (until I found out about the Ethiopians and the Eritreans lol), people in my high school and various other place say that Somalis are not Black, I’ve thought about this and I can understand how our features are not like other black people say in west,central and sourthern Africa. by the way, the problem with all this dna bs is it always bias to favor Europeans. The closest clade to V13 is V12, I used to think berbers are closer to me than Somalis, but I did more research & found out the closelst people to V13 Albanians are other V13 Greeks then V12 East Africans, M81 Berbers are isolated people that branched out directly from ancient Ethiopians-Sudanese. Mathilda37 You say Somalis have Eurasian , Egyptian , Arab , Sub-Saharan genes. Tragic attempt by a semi DNA literate (you) to make it sound like you know waht you are talking about. Later after they Re-Occupied Nubia they could now trade with Punt free of aggression from Nubia. South Asians can range from jet black to ivory in colour. ‘Do you know if the tested sample is predominantly from one geographic propinquity, in other words how spatially distributed were the people in terms of their clan affiliation?’. Semitic is Asian, and berber languages are North African. M78 shows a population movement into the horn not from it. Also, as a Somali myself my mom is a little dark skin and soft waivy hair and is my dad is the same but a little more darker and resembles a black arab. You have OUR DNA. mathilda37 Your pt. While M78 might be from the horn, E-M215, the parent clade of E-M78, originated in East Africa during the paleolithic and subsequently, E-M215 spread to Northeast Africa. Jaysal: Yeah, I used to think it was Asia but in two different anthropology/psych class, my professors said it was Africa. Unless the Albanians and Greeks, who have 40% East African genes are considered part African, the Somalis cannot be considered part Caucasoid. explain then why are some sub saharan people light skinned according to your sun theory shouldn’t they all be blue black? Jomo it’s actual science and I’m quoting it not making it up. I am now reading “Vile Nubia”. I’m guessing you haven’t. Battaglia in 2008 though notes the origin to be in Jebel Sahaba / Lake Nubia – BOTH Sites are in SUDAN and not Egypt. There is only one M35 Marker. these sub-saharan africans do you mean bantu, or nilotic people. We are all the same people despite developing differently in different regions of the continent (and eventually in different parts of the world). Some DNA polymorphisms are shared by Europeans, West Asians, North Africans and Sub-Saharan Africans.. 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